"Combating the Delphi Technique and Occupy Infiltration"

[Terry Bain]

Brandon Turbeville

Activist Post

"....At this point, it appears that Occupy is not being crippled so much by opposition from without, but by paralysis from within. It is well-known that the Occupy Wall Street movement has never been able to articulate or even agree on any set of tangible, political demands. After all, this is one of the issues that psychotic blowhards such as Bill O’Reilly and Sean Hannity were able to seize upon when attempting to categorize the participants as “dirty hippies” and spoiled children. A movement with no demands will increasingly lend itself to the appearance of being a temper tantrum more than true political resistance. "

Article Here

[MOD]

Looks like another show topic eh?

[Achilles Asheelz]

The idea is sound - it hits on key topics - but does not delineate with sources or personal annotation (reason) the priority of the variables involved nor how to solve them.  Some of the concepts pushed me to the point where I wanted to close the window.  These ideas definitely seem like the glorified word, "conspiracy," because they're not developed.  Random declarations do little good, especially those that alienate your own architecture.


This topic does hit on what I'm currently considering, though, which is why I read it all the way through.  It's good to know what people think or believe on any given subject.  It's also good to note that people, whether many or few, connect the similarities between both the Tea Party and Occupy movements.  That small spark, I think, can be developed if approached the right way.

[Achilles Asheelz]

His approach against representatives, though, is precisely the wrong conclusion.  Sure, there will be those with ulterior motives, which is why you promote many 'enlightened' individuals to represent a particular variable.  I don't remember the Constitution being signed by one guy, perhaps I'm wrong. His argument against General Assemblies is spot-on.  That is why both movements have been, thus far, strategically and tactically inept and why our forefathers did not use the same concept.

LINKS!

“Second Treatise on Government,” John Locke (1689)

http://epublish.biz/pdf/Two_Treatises_of_Government.pdf

“On Liberty,” John Stuart Mill (1860)

http://socserv.mcmaster.ca/~econ/ugcm/3ll3/mill/liberty.pdf

 

 

[Terry Bain]

Some really good links on Robert's Rules of Order:  If anybody can add, please feel free to comment.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKp_in0b3jE&list=PLFD533C34516C7...=

 

http://www.robertsrules.org/rulesintro.htm

http://roberts-rules.com/index.html

http://www.rulesonline.com/rror--04.htm

[Achilles Asheelz]

Ah! Rob's rules, yeah, those were what I was referencing to in my post about leadership amongst the Tea Party and Occupy.  I think the basic seven are paramount for organizing any large protest and deriving to an honest consensus:

1. Motion
2. Postpone Indefinitely
3. Amend
4. Commit
5. Question
6. Table
7. Adjourn